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		<title>By: Teens Change the Face of U.S. Business &#124; Teen Checkup &#124; Internet Safety</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Teens Change the Face of U.S. Business &#124; Teen Checkup &#124; Internet Safety]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 05:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a marketer, I can tell you that people sit around conference room tables talking about how to build customer loyalty to their brand. (I have to say I haven&#039;t heard the term &quot;wedded&quot; before.) The challenge with marketing to teens is that they have incredible buying power but are too easily influenced. They are usually smart enough to know when they are being marketed to, but tactics like this one are often lost on them, requiring a parent&#039;s guidance to say &quot;by the way, this is marketing,&quot; which, I guarantee you, wouldn&#039;t happen. Parents would just be pleased as could be that there is a &quot;safe&quot; place for their kids to go hang out without negative influences. 

Outside of it being a very weird out-of-the-box idea, it is destined to fail. They won&#039;t be able to attribute any revenue to this expense, and it will end up on the cutting room floor when it comes budget time to evaluate which were their winning and losing marketing tactics. It will fade out faster than the &quot;Merry Go Round&quot; teen clothing stores that were around when I was a kid, just like Michael Jackson&#039;s glove that inspired those stores.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a marketer, I can tell you that people sit around conference room tables talking about how to build customer loyalty to their brand. (I have to say I haven&#8217;t heard the term &#8220;wedded&#8221; before.) The challenge with marketing to teens is that they have incredible buying power but are too easily influenced. They are usually smart enough to know when they are being marketed to, but tactics like this one are often lost on them, requiring a parent&#8217;s guidance to say &#8220;by the way, this is marketing,&#8221; which, I guarantee you, wouldn&#8217;t happen. Parents would just be pleased as could be that there is a &#8220;safe&#8221; place for their kids to go hang out without negative influences. </p>
<p>Outside of it being a very weird out-of-the-box idea, it is destined to fail. They won&#8217;t be able to attribute any revenue to this expense, and it will end up on the cutting room floor when it comes budget time to evaluate which were their winning and losing marketing tactics. It will fade out faster than the &#8220;Merry Go Round&#8221; teen clothing stores that were around when I was a kid, just like Michael Jackson&#8217;s glove that inspired those stores.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Ockler</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sarah Ockler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I see what you&#039;re saying - google is a good analogy. I was totally down for free stuff as a teen (I still am, actually! *I* want to go to Haute Spot! And actually, if they&#039;re providing a service to teens - like quick preview access to products teens want - that&#039;s okay. I just don&#039;t like how they&#039;re positioning it, and I&#039;m not sure how transparent they&#039;re going to be about how they collect and use the data. I think that&#039;s what&#039;s getting me the most. And I wouldn&#039;t say google is super transparent about that, either - sure, it&#039;s all in the fine print, but no one goes out of the way to make sure users read it.

 I guess we&#039;ll see whether their strategy works. And I&#039;m already telling all of my friends they&#039;ll love Jon Skovorn&#039;s books, so you&#039;re covered there! :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I see what you&#8217;re saying &#8211; google is a good analogy. I was totally down for free stuff as a teen (I still am, actually! *I* want to go to Haute Spot! And actually, if they&#8217;re providing a service to teens &#8211; like quick preview access to products teens want &#8211; that&#8217;s okay. I just don&#8217;t like how they&#8217;re positioning it, and I&#8217;m not sure how transparent they&#8217;re going to be about how they collect and use the data. I think that&#8217;s what&#8217;s getting me the most. And I wouldn&#8217;t say google is super transparent about that, either &#8211; sure, it&#8217;s all in the fine print, but no one goes out of the way to make sure users read it.</p>
<p> I guess we&#8217;ll see whether their strategy works. And I&#8217;m already telling all of my friends they&#8217;ll love Jon Skovorn&#8217;s books, so you&#8217;re covered there! <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Skov</title>
		<link>http://sarahockler.com/2008/10/30/teen-marketing-by-vogue-drink-smoothies-be-wooed/#comment-841</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skov]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is fascinating. Kind of reminds me of William Gibson&#039;s Pattern Recognition. That guy&#039;s idea&#039;s have a chilling success rate of actually coming true.

The thing is, were i a teen, I&#039;d just be looking at this as a way to get a free smoothie. I used to go to gallery opening in college for the free food. Being a broke artist does things to you, I suppose. Another way to look at it is Google. Basically, they offer free products like web search, email, and blog, etc. In return, you see their Ad Sense column on the side of everything. And those ads are customized for you, based on the contents of your search/email/blog. So it is a bit of &quot;ooh, you like YA books by Sarah Ockler? Perhaps you&#039;d like YA books by Jon Skovron! Say, here&#039;s a link to a Jon Skovorn book on Amazon right here! but you don&#039;t have to click the link. You can just avail yourself of the free service and filter the ads out, either internal, or with the use of a browser plugin designed to do such things.

The point is, exploitation can be a two-way street, provided that you&#039;re sharp enough. We can&#039;t stop Vogue from being Vogue, but we can help people get savvy to it and see the possibilities that work within the system.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is fascinating. Kind of reminds me of William Gibson&#8217;s Pattern Recognition. That guy&#8217;s idea&#8217;s have a chilling success rate of actually coming true.</p>
<p>The thing is, were i a teen, I&#8217;d just be looking at this as a way to get a free smoothie. I used to go to gallery opening in college for the free food. Being a broke artist does things to you, I suppose. Another way to look at it is Google. Basically, they offer free products like web search, email, and blog, etc. In return, you see their Ad Sense column on the side of everything. And those ads are customized for you, based on the contents of your search/email/blog. So it is a bit of &#8220;ooh, you like YA books by Sarah Ockler? Perhaps you&#8217;d like YA books by Jon Skovron! Say, here&#8217;s a link to a Jon Skovorn book on Amazon right here! but you don&#8217;t have to click the link. You can just avail yourself of the free service and filter the ads out, either internal, or with the use of a browser plugin designed to do such things.</p>
<p>The point is, exploitation can be a two-way street, provided that you&#8217;re sharp enough. We can&#8217;t stop Vogue from being Vogue, but we can help people get savvy to it and see the possibilities that work within the system.</p>
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